[idea] IDDC balance problems and new IDDC-like mode

[tangar]

With every cheeze you reduce probability to die. Thats it. Its simple. If you

grinding money from repeatedly diving characters to 1k and giving that money to your main char

..you could buy better items.. More resists -> less probability to die.

So its not fair in comparison to people who do not do it. Its clearly cheating, not even cheezing. And its allowed atm. And in this topic we trying to find solution.

Another idea which I /rfed yesterday:
to forbid players in IDDC to transfer gold to each other.
It could help solve above problem.

Please discuss

[PowerWyrm]

Another idea which I /rfed yesterday:
to forbid players in IDDC to transfer gold to each other.
It could help solve above problem.

And what about players who dive in IDDC in party? Usually two players in a party will sell items they don't need, then pool the gold and divide it in two. Not being able to pool gold would be stupid.

[tangar]

Its not too big problem in compare to possible cheating if gold barter is allowed. Each player could take items for themself, thats it.

[tangar]

So.. I've got my "alt" rogue-bat 26 lvl at -1000 IDDC. Now I could steal and equip my "main" char.... BUT. Its deadly boring. I don't wanna steal for another char in IDDC. I even dont wanna steal in IDDC. I wanna dive. I don't wanna cheeze shops. I wanna dive...

You could tell me - oh, just dive and shut up; don't like cheeze - don't use it. Ok. BUT. Do I have any chance to compete in IDCC with people who steal for their main characters, who moves gold from one char to another and cheeze shops for hours/days/weeks? No, I don't.

So there is only two ways: I need to use all "advantages" of IDDC (stealing, alt cheating & etc) or forget about playing for result (getting to ladder). Thats it.

Goal of this message - not to whine, but just tell my final thoughts considering current IDDC mode. its resume, my last message about this topic for now.

I want to play IDDC very much cause I tired to play "common" mode, I need a break from it... But current IDDC doesn't looks fair competition to me. Spend hours of your time for not hard, but boring stuff OR forget about ladder... Its not right approach to IDDC cause in this mode your playing skill must be essential, not the time which you spend in town.

I'll be very glad even to play Hellish IDDC char for example, if character in this mode would have some restrictions considering cheezing/stealing/alt-managment. Also there are a lot of other ideas about IDDC and IDDC-like modes which we discussed in this and other topics. I hope that our brainstorms produced something useful

[PowerWyrm]

Here's an idea:
- reduce IDDC character slots to 1 (think of it as an "unwordly" IDDC character)
- allow normal chars to enter IDDC as usual (think of them as "everlasting" IDDC characters)
- like normal mode, don't allow interaction between the two, only record IDDC slot characters to ladder

Should fix the problem no?

[Lightman]

"So there is only two ways: I need to use all advantages of IDDC (stealing, alt cheating & etc) or forget about playing for result (getting to ladder). Thats it."

Stealing is what rogues do.I honestly believe that people on the ladder played fair also.

[tangar]

steal stuff (items, potions, scrolls & etc) with a thief alt char ----> give it to your main character. its how it is. some people have thief chars at -1000 city, some at -2000