IDDC shopping cheeze

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IDDC shopping cheeze

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Right now IDDC character appears with ~770 gold. For this gold you could buy pretty awesome items if you would wait for sales in the shops. For example, I just bought Fire res. ring for 28g or so.

So you could make your IDDChallenge much easier if you would buy, for example, a codex and fill it with spells by your choice. And its quite possible to do, but its very long time waiting for good price in Bree.

So actually to go IDDC you have to wait for items for 1-2 hours. If you wouldn't do it, your chances to survive there reduced a lot.

I've heard that IDDC-players also spending a lot of times in cheezing sales in low deepths (generated towns). Not the best part of gameplay in such interesting mode :(

Idea of IDDC - to survive with limited resources. Time - its also a resource, it would be fun to remove cheezing from IDDC.

I see such posibilities to fix it:

Forbid IDDC characters to buy items with [sale] or %-lowered prices. Sell it at full price only. But then people who did IDDC previously can't be beaten in scoreboard and chars which already created would have quite big advantage. To separate them in ladder - we could put a flag ($) at their name.
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Another approach - to add bonus score to players who didnt buy [sale] or %-price items. Like 25% more points in IDDC. May be even just add this option to Hellish mode and increase final score % a bit.. I think its quite good solution.

Please discuss ;)
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Re: IDDC shopping cheeze

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Well, you can also increase your IDDC survival chances by staying as long as possible on each floor, clearing everything, instead of playing it fast and only take out the juciest mobs. Same as shopping intensity it depends on your personal preferences. It should be noted however, that dungeon shops change their stock 4x as fast as normal stores, so you will have to wait much less for whatever it is you decide to wait for.
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True, you have to clear everything. But if we would compare two players who both clear all rooms in a dungeon, player who got codex and all necessary items from start with 90% price would have much more advantage. So anyway - clear you all or not - its necessary to cheeze @ Bree for 2-3 hours (still can't catch a Codex with my new Ranger) to get all necessary items before you actually go IDDC.

As I see this mode - it has to be hard, risky, but not boring. And cheezing shops are boring imho. But if you do not do it - you decreasing you chances to be success greatly.

So if there would be an option to pass [sale] and %-priced items for getting bonus points in scroreboard - I'll go for it for sure. I would like to go to action immediately after I created my character, not cheezing codex, rings & etc. So adding "no-sale" option to Hellish mode could be quite interesting idea.
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I don't think IDDC needs more nerfing, it's already hard as it is. ;)
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PowerWyrm wrote:I don't think IDDC needs more nerfing
Its not nerfing IDDC. Just add an option for Hellish-IDDC character with some more score % do not be able to buy [sale] and % items.
PowerWyrm wrote: it's already hard as it is. ;)
Look at algorithm of gameplay which I got at IDDC:

1) I created a ranger for IDDC.
2) with 700 starters gold and 90% sales you could buy rings/amu with resists and codex with 3 spells. You have to do it or you would loose huge opportunity.
3) to cheeze this stuff with 90% sales I waited for this items for a several hours and lurked around Bree shops like mad
4) But I still didn't get 90% Codex, was bored and deleted IDDC character.

The end of my IDDC career. Not hard really :lol:

Right now "90% sale" option for IDDC characters - just a legit cheat which helping people who have time to cheeze items for hours. I do not have time and interest to do so, but I also do not want to be vulnerable in compare to cheezers-cheaters. Everybody has to be equal, especially at start of the game.

Not fun.
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