TomeNET localization? (translation)

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TomeNET localization? (translation)

Post by tangar » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:27 am

I wonder - is it possible to translate TomeNET to another language? How this process could be done? I tried to replace text in "\lib\game" to Russian language but it show empty space when I check it in-game (need to chance encoding?).

Currently there are quite big Russian-speaking community and we would be glad to translate TomeNET to Russian if there is such possiblity. I could organize process of translation (via cs-platform https://crowdin.com/ ), but to do so I need to understand how it works first :)

AFAIU there are a lot of stuff coming from server, which means that it would be much harder to translate it then just simple .txt files - to do so there should be somekind of localization-engine... or maybe (I hope so) I mistaken?

Please help to understand how does it work and is it possible at all?
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Re: TomeNET localization project (translation to Russian)

Post by tokariew » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:29 pm

[speculate on :twisted: ]
in some twisted way, you can try to make another tileset but with russian characters…
and then translate using glyphs for that tileset… remembering that you will broke ingame chat and other messeges…
and that you don't use "proper russian" characters, just english one, so you must map translation… probably using some sort of nice script.
[speculate off]

yes you can just translate files in lib/game and this is fine if you have latin alphabet and you kick out diacritics…

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Re: TomeNET localization project (translation to Russian)

Post by tangar » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:55 pm

damm it's even more complex when I imagined at first... Russian language got non-latin alphabet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_alphabet

So what we have to do at least:
1) to make tileset with Russian glyphs // we could do so.
Аа Бб Вв Гг Дд Ее Ёё Жж Зз Ии Йй
Кк Лл Мм Нн Оо Пп Рр Сс Тт Уу Фф
Хх Цц Чч Шш Щщ Ъъ Ыы Ьь Ээ Юю Яя

2) Then remap everything to this symbols // no idea how to do so. anyone could help?

3) Then translate stuff... // we could do so


But.. there is already Angband in Russian:
https://yadi.sk/public?hash=%2Fy3%2FfVJ ... 1JqnBAg%3D
So it's not impossile :D Maybe we would be able to take some stuff from Angband translation to TomeNET? At least to understand main principle...

Hm.. and what about information which comes directly from server (text strings)? Is this problem exist?
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Re: TomeNET localization? (translation)

Post by C. Blue » Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:34 pm

There was a korean server at some point, done by a korean player going by the handle "potato" ^^.
They created a patch for Tomenet that allowed input of korean language, but I don't know details about it, which encoding, if english was possible at the same time or not, sorry.
I think it was on nethack.byus.net somewhere.

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Re: TomeNET localization? (translation)

Post by tangar » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:00 pm

Thanks! I'll try to get connected with Potato :)
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Re: TomeNET localization? (translation)

Post by tangar » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:04 am

I didn't manage to register at nethack.byus.net. I almost made it (ave google translate!), but stuck at capcha - you need to fill numbers and they are nowhere to be seen :(
C. Blue wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:34 pm
They created a patch for Tomenet that allowed input of korean language,
Any chance that someone got this patch source code, so it would be possible to create Russian analogue? There are a lot of people who are quite hyped about perspercive to play TomeNET in Russian. Russian community would surely run it's own server, so you don't need to be worry about problems with russian language in chat :)
Tangar's tileset, addon, guides & maps: English TomeNET page ||||||| Russian TomeNet page
http://youtube.com/GlazGame — streams in English // http://youtube.com/StreamGuild — streams in Russian
My chars @ angband.oook.cz

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